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Isaac Simpson's avatar

Amazing how many parallels there are to Manson family.

Great piece, almost ruined by your insistence on using "She" which is certifiably insane.

Nonetheless come on my pod to tell this story!

TrentonUK's avatar

Agree. Lets be accurate with the pronouns.

James M.'s avatar

Fascinating. Best treatment of this strange group that I've seen. They were bizarre (and not as smart as they thought they were) but I'll give them this: they walked the walk. That's a rare quality these days.

Darren B's avatar

Interesting that you didn't mention that most of them ID'd as Trans.

Brian Chau's avatar

"LaSota, who by this time was openly a transgender woman and an ardent vegan, found a niche among these like-minded futurists. She described herself as a “Vegan Transgender Anarchist Rationalist,”"

"Many were fellow trans women or gender-nonconforming people, some on the autism spectrum – “smart, mostly autistic-ish transwomen who were extremely vulnerable and isolated,” as one community leader later described Ziz’s recruitment pool."

Darren B's avatar

Yeah, that is my bad. I was listening to TrueAnon's public episode while reading the article.

Nematode's avatar

Great writing, best tight summary I’ve heard of the Zizians

Alfred's avatar

Astonishing that in 2025, with an abundance of IT, thet law enforcement and the legal apparatus are as incompetent as ever.

Will Martin's avatar

Lol, How far down the list of connections is Patrick Shane Ryan to these Rationalist culties given that he hung out with Elizeer Yudkowsky out in LA? (Or at least so he claims?)

KP's avatar

Brian, when is John Gray coming on the pod!

Brian Chau's avatar

I've been trying my best ... I'll let his team know the people demand it!