It seems to me that Rauch has great difficulty believing that Republicans can win an election fairly. He thinks they are prepared to overturn an election if the vote count goes the wrong way. When you push back on that and say that overturning an election is really hard, he says that they will use lies to win an election.
In any case, I thought his views came through clearly.
Just discovered FTNW podcast and binging deep in the back catalog--fantastic content! This one was a bit painful though. I appreciate you bringing on someone from the center-left with a strong theory and good reasoning, but man, everything he brought up to criticize Trump and Maga had so many parallels on the left that went unsaid! You pushed back at one point saying that the left "lied," but just more subtly and if we push that point further, I'd say that they lie to themselves, eachother, and often do not even know they are doing it.
What's new perhaps is the lie that everyone knows is a lie which tells a different truth based on it's function in eliciting responses. Trump does this in baiting the left to respond to his claims and thus trapping them in admissions, while leftists do this by claiming absurd things about gender or crime and strong arming eachother into agreeing to something obviously false. After the first-order "Original sin" of the lie, then it becomes an accepted "fact" or data point simply by continuing to exist and getting propagated.
The conversation could have been so much richer if we could have analyzed the left in the same light. But I understand time constraints and it was totally worthwhile just to hear his perspective. Thank you! 🙏🏼
You're likely familiar w/ his work, but you should chat w/ Garret Jones (https://twitter.com/GarettJones) who has a similar broadly pro-elite "political realist" view, in addition to interesting IQ & immigration work.
Interesting interview.....glad to hear it. For someone who talks so much about cognitive biases he seems to have many of his own. He really does seem to think the median Republican voter has a room temperature IQ and is susceptible to the most obvious of falsehoods. That being said, it is still interesting and important to hear these perspectives articulated- so thank you!
It seems to me that Rauch has great difficulty believing that Republicans can win an election fairly. He thinks they are prepared to overturn an election if the vote count goes the wrong way. When you push back on that and say that overturning an election is really hard, he says that they will use lies to win an election.
In any case, I thought his views came through clearly.
Just discovered FTNW podcast and binging deep in the back catalog--fantastic content! This one was a bit painful though. I appreciate you bringing on someone from the center-left with a strong theory and good reasoning, but man, everything he brought up to criticize Trump and Maga had so many parallels on the left that went unsaid! You pushed back at one point saying that the left "lied," but just more subtly and if we push that point further, I'd say that they lie to themselves, eachother, and often do not even know they are doing it.
What's new perhaps is the lie that everyone knows is a lie which tells a different truth based on it's function in eliciting responses. Trump does this in baiting the left to respond to his claims and thus trapping them in admissions, while leftists do this by claiming absurd things about gender or crime and strong arming eachother into agreeing to something obviously false. After the first-order "Original sin" of the lie, then it becomes an accepted "fact" or data point simply by continuing to exist and getting propagated.
The conversation could have been so much richer if we could have analyzed the left in the same light. But I understand time constraints and it was totally worthwhile just to hear his perspective. Thank you! 🙏🏼
You're likely familiar w/ his work, but you should chat w/ Garret Jones (https://twitter.com/GarettJones) who has a similar broadly pro-elite "political realist" view, in addition to interesting IQ & immigration work.
Good listen. Regards the end of the conversation - the nearest pre-Trump example I can think of is P. T. Barnum. Maybe.
Interesting interview.....glad to hear it. For someone who talks so much about cognitive biases he seems to have many of his own. He really does seem to think the median Republican voter has a room temperature IQ and is susceptible to the most obvious of falsehoods. That being said, it is still interesting and important to hear these perspectives articulated- so thank you!