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Eric Mauro's avatar

Most right wingers spend nothing on art besides war movies.

Tattoos are the most populist kind of art and they are 99% derivative junk permanently inked on people’s bodies.

The beauty and order of craft does lead to the right, it takes order, skill, God-given ability and learning. Left-wing craft is bad in its own way, it’s mostly recycling.

The Christian vision is really the only interesting one for a westerner, even leftism is an echo of Christianity.

Most paying clients have 50000 in the bank.

If I had to articulate one place the right can go that the left can’t follow it’s the idea that humans were put on earth to participate in nature.

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William Foster's avatar

No, it's that humans are the crowning achievement (creation) of nature, despite humanity's fallen state.

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Eric Mauro's avatar

I think what I’m getting at is more practical. Artists should present paradise with human involvement, much like an orchard which takes a lot of cutting to produce fruit.

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ZanethMedia's avatar

Listened on Spotify, excellent conversation.

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William Foster's avatar

Why isn't Colonel "doughboy" Vindman in Ukraine fighting for his people?

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Jason Brain's avatar

Normalization is full-on here in western Washington state. It's all-hands on deck to protect our corrupt bureaucracies in the name of "democracy" and other such popular platitudes.

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no brain's avatar

Can you name 5 artists who you would award these grants to if this patronage program actually happened?

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M___'s avatar
May 7Edited

Conservative art is far more prominent than this conversation assumes. However, conservatives often fail to recognize or embrace it as such—and I think that’s the bigger issue.

One of my favorite examples is Pixar’s Coco, which contrasts Burkean conservatism (a sense of obligation to ancestors) with liberal individualism (“the world is my family”) and, to a lesser degree, Nietzschean philosophy (“seize your moment”). The film also incorporates elements of classical comedy, which Brian has advocated reviving (it’s still present –you just have to notice it).

There are many such examples. Yet red-leaning voters often refuse to engage with art from a philosophical perspective, insisting that art should be purely entertaining. They loudly object to LGBT content while overlooking the conservative themes embedded in the other (or occasionally same) work from the same studios.

I suspect that, were someone to point out such themes, many conservative would say, “That’s just the way things work,” without realizing that this reflects only one worldview – albeit one that may align more closely with human nature than what is often called “woke” art (yeah, I read that essay too, Brian).

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